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		<title>Comment on Lent by Rosemary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rosemary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 22:27:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An update:

I&#039;ve gotten the commute to 1 hour each way.  I get BORED waiting for the transfer bus on the way home, to the point that I&#039;ll often skip one bus and walk for 40 minutes, rather than wait at a bus stop for 10 minutes.  But that&#039;s fine.  It&#039;s good exercise.

But one thing I definitely appreciate:  the time I have to read!  

I have about a half an hour every morning and every evening to read for pleasure.  It&#039;s great.  I just finished &quot;Brotherhood of the Holy Shroud&quot; and now I&#039;m reading &quot;A Cook in Time&quot;.  Such fun!

I&#039;m considering what to do when Lent ends.  Perhaps I shall drive on days when I need to be somewhere after work, but bus on days when I don&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An update:</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve gotten the commute to 1 hour each way.  I get BORED waiting for the transfer bus on the way home, to the point that I&#8217;ll often skip one bus and walk for 40 minutes, rather than wait at a bus stop for 10 minutes.  But that&#8217;s fine.  It&#8217;s good exercise.</p>
<p>But one thing I definitely appreciate:  the time I have to read!  </p>
<p>I have about a half an hour every morning and every evening to read for pleasure.  It&#8217;s great.  I just finished &#8220;Brotherhood of the Holy Shroud&#8221; and now I&#8217;m reading &#8220;A Cook in Time&#8221;.  Such fun!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m considering what to do when Lent ends.  Perhaps I shall drive on days when I need to be somewhere after work, but bus on days when I don&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Lent by Rosemary</title>
		<link>http://lutheranx.wordpress.com/2008/02/06/lent/#comment-48</link>
		<dc:creator>Rosemary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 05:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.  It&#039;s helpful for me to hear that you&#039;re inspired.  At the moment I&#039;m just frustrated, and I cheered on Saturday when I was able to drive my car somewhere.

I find myself choosing between walking 25 minutes from the bus stop to my work place, or waiting 25 minutes for the transfer bus to arrive.  Yesterday it took me 1-1/2 hours to make the trip home (when driving, it&#039;s 25 minutes tops).  And on Wednesday night (by far my favorite mishap yet), I got stuck in a hailstorm while crossing the 15th Ave Bridge in Ballard by foot.  With no umbrella.  Woohoo!

:P

But, ah, isn&#039;t that the wonderful way that Lenten vows work?  They&#039;re supposed to challenge you.  Give me a couple weeks.  By the grace of God, I&#039;m sure I shall get the hang of it.   :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  It&#8217;s helpful for me to hear that you&#8217;re inspired.  At the moment I&#8217;m just frustrated, and I cheered on Saturday when I was able to drive my car somewhere.</p>
<p>I find myself choosing between walking 25 minutes from the bus stop to my work place, or waiting 25 minutes for the transfer bus to arrive.  Yesterday it took me 1-1/2 hours to make the trip home (when driving, it&#8217;s 25 minutes tops).  And on Wednesday night (by far my favorite mishap yet), I got stuck in a hailstorm while crossing the 15th Ave Bridge in Ballard by foot.  With no umbrella.  Woohoo!</p>
<p> <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>But, ah, isn&#8217;t that the wonderful way that Lenten vows work?  They&#8217;re supposed to challenge you.  Give me a couple weeks.  By the grace of God, I&#8217;m sure I shall get the hang of it.   <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Judgement by William</title>
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		<dc:creator>William</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 00:20:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know that this is one of the passages used by the &quot;christians&quot; who are are protesting the military funerals.  They are the ones from the Baptist church in Overland Park KS.  Anyway, they are missing the point as well as many of the larger baptist style churches.  We all fall short.  It is with the community of Christ that we ovoid these problems and reinforce what is needed to live as Christians.  Course a good dose of seeking and receiving forgiveness from Jesus helps a bit too.  Just my 2cents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know that this is one of the passages used by the &#8220;christians&#8221; who are are protesting the military funerals.  They are the ones from the Baptist church in Overland Park KS.  Anyway, they are missing the point as well as many of the larger baptist style churches.  We all fall short.  It is with the community of Christ that we ovoid these problems and reinforce what is needed to live as Christians.  Course a good dose of seeking and receiving forgiveness from Jesus helps a bit too.  Just my 2cents.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Lent by toddh</title>
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		<dc:creator>toddh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 22:39:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a great idea!  I just had to figure out the other day if there is any way that I could make public transportation work for me.  Unfortunately, there really isn&#039;t with my job.  But I think that&#039;s one of the best ideas I have heard for giving up something for Lent.  I am inspired!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a great idea!  I just had to figure out the other day if there is any way that I could make public transportation work for me.  Unfortunately, there really isn&#8217;t with my job.  But I think that&#8217;s one of the best ideas I have heard for giving up something for Lent.  I am inspired!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Judgement by Rosemary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rosemary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 06:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So true, Jesse.  So true.  Thank you.  You make me feel better about this book by reminding me of its context &amp; original intent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So true, Jesse.  So true.  Thank you.  You make me feel better about this book by reminding me of its context &amp; original intent.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Judgement by Jesse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jesse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 15:48:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s important to realize this passage is not about Jesus&#039; presumed course of action during the resurrection. Paul wrote this first part of his letter to &quot;build the Thesselonicans up&quot; so to speak. These were people who were voluntarily subjecting themselves to great persecution because of their faith . They were alienating themselves from their neighbors and families. Paul was a man who was not afraid of hellfire and brimstone and he may have included these words to inspire them to remain strong in their faith. What is important is that Paul is careful to remind the Thesselonicans that God will dole out retribution and they should not take these matters into their own hands. His words later which you quote, implore the Thesselonicans to continue to minister to the Word. It&#039;s easy to see how this passage can be misinterpreted, but part of our mission as children of God is to read the Bible and to do that we must look at the passages in the proper context.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s important to realize this passage is not about Jesus&#8217; presumed course of action during the resurrection. Paul wrote this first part of his letter to &#8220;build the Thesselonicans up&#8221; so to speak. These were people who were voluntarily subjecting themselves to great persecution because of their faith . They were alienating themselves from their neighbors and families. Paul was a man who was not afraid of hellfire and brimstone and he may have included these words to inspire them to remain strong in their faith. What is important is that Paul is careful to remind the Thesselonicans that God will dole out retribution and they should not take these matters into their own hands. His words later which you quote, implore the Thesselonicans to continue to minister to the Word. It&#8217;s easy to see how this passage can be misinterpreted, but part of our mission as children of God is to read the Bible and to do that we must look at the passages in the proper context.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Fruits of the Spirit by William</title>
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		<dc:creator>William</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 02:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is interesting that you would mention that Christ is there to guide us back to the &quot;strait and narrow&quot;.  This is one area I have really struggled with in the last 8 years now.  I have tried to walk this path, it has been easy to be generous and gentle to others and when I am around others, joy.  But I am filled with such anger over how I was treated for these 8 years and all of it has been directed at God.  I have prayed long and hard for help and it never seems to come.  Ironicly it is easier for me to love others than myself especially with how I look now.  

To steal a line, I feel like I know what it is like to be all alone in the night (B5).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is interesting that you would mention that Christ is there to guide us back to the &#8220;strait and narrow&#8221;.  This is one area I have really struggled with in the last 8 years now.  I have tried to walk this path, it has been easy to be generous and gentle to others and when I am around others, joy.  But I am filled with such anger over how I was treated for these 8 years and all of it has been directed at God.  I have prayed long and hard for help and it never seems to come.  Ironicly it is easier for me to love others than myself especially with how I look now.  </p>
<p>To steal a line, I feel like I know what it is like to be all alone in the night (B5).</p>
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		<title>Comment on Introduction to the New Testament by Rosemary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rosemary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 04:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So I read the “Introduction to the New Testament.”  It reminded me of why I love studying scripture… hearing all about the historical context in which the documents were written… 

The most interesting idea about the decisions people made on which texts to include in the New Testament canon — why need a canon at all?  Well, when Christians are being persecuted, it’s important for them to know which books &amp; letters they can renounce and which ones really have to be stuck to.  I’d never thought about that before.

As to how to procede in reading the New Testament, I think I’ll continue with the Pauline letters.  The New Testament has them arranged according to length, so I feel no particular need to read them in order.  I’d like to be able to read the entire book in one setting, and look at the book as a whole - at least to start with.

So, Galatians it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I read the “Introduction to the New Testament.”  It reminded me of why I love studying scripture… hearing all about the historical context in which the documents were written… </p>
<p>The most interesting idea about the decisions people made on which texts to include in the New Testament canon — why need a canon at all?  Well, when Christians are being persecuted, it’s important for them to know which books &amp; letters they can renounce and which ones really have to be stuck to.  I’d never thought about that before.</p>
<p>As to how to procede in reading the New Testament, I think I’ll continue with the Pauline letters.  The New Testament has them arranged according to length, so I feel no particular need to read them in order.  I’d like to be able to read the entire book in one setting, and look at the book as a whole &#8211; at least to start with.</p>
<p>So, Galatians it is.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Steward of the Earth by William</title>
		<link>http://lutheranx.wordpress.com/2007/10/25/steward-of-the-earth/#comment-9</link>
		<dc:creator>William</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 01:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I pulled that quote, I pulled it in the context that allot of Christians do today.  Drive the most inefficient SUV not cause it is safer for your family, but because it what everyone else does.  It is easy to see the building up of the Christian culture in the world to &quot;Take the earth and do unto her as you will  (ie rape).  You can see this attitude in allot of conservative writers.  Hardly a husbandly approach to the earth that I believe that God intended.  There are so many ways one can look at things.  While I don&#039;t really believe in the Carbon crisis, as this would lead to a dramatic increase in plant life.  But I do believe in the pollution of the earth.  Look what happens to the earth around those plants that refine nickel (Most important ingredient for the batteries in hybrids, etc) or mercury refineries (what is required to make all those light bulbs that greenpeace says we must use).

How do we reconcile the passages that talk about being fruitful and multiplying and filling the earth?  The places that can least afford people have huge population densities.  Think China and India with each over 1 billion people...  

I admit there are no easy answers and I am not the most eloquent with the written word.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I pulled that quote, I pulled it in the context that allot of Christians do today.  Drive the most inefficient SUV not cause it is safer for your family, but because it what everyone else does.  It is easy to see the building up of the Christian culture in the world to &#8220;Take the earth and do unto her as you will  (ie rape).  You can see this attitude in allot of conservative writers.  Hardly a husbandly approach to the earth that I believe that God intended.  There are so many ways one can look at things.  While I don&#8217;t really believe in the Carbon crisis, as this would lead to a dramatic increase in plant life.  But I do believe in the pollution of the earth.  Look what happens to the earth around those plants that refine nickel (Most important ingredient for the batteries in hybrids, etc) or mercury refineries (what is required to make all those light bulbs that greenpeace says we must use).</p>
<p>How do we reconcile the passages that talk about being fruitful and multiplying and filling the earth?  The places that can least afford people have huge population densities.  Think China and India with each over 1 billion people&#8230;  </p>
<p>I admit there are no easy answers and I am not the most eloquent with the written word.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Steward of the Earth by Rosemary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rosemary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 02:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Martin Luther said that?  What a fabulous image of hope.  I love it!  

And that&#039;s a good point bringing up PETA and one&#039;s carbon footprint.  I&#039;ve been on a red meat kick lately.  That is to say, I&#039;ve been craving red meat A LOT and eating A LOT of it.  For me, this usually means that I&#039;m low on iron and my body needs more.  I think I&#039;ll challenge myself to find other ways of getting myself the nutrients my body is craving.  I can leave less of an imprint on the ecosystem, yet still get the nutrients I need.  I just need to be proactive about it.

I think I do something different with Genesis 1:28.  As with any single passage, I need to look at the context in which the line happens and the context in which the story was originally told before I can draw wisdom for how it impacts my life today.  

So, Genesis 1:28-31:

&lt;i&gt;God blessed [the male and female he had created], and God said to them, &quot;Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth and subdue it; and have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the air and over every living thing that moves upon the earth.&quot;  God said, &quot;See, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree with seed in its fruit; you shall have them for food.  And to every beast of the earth, and every beast of the earth, and to every bird of the air, and to everything that creeps on the earth, I have given every green plant for food.&quot;  And it was so.  God saw everything that he had made, and indeed, it was very good.  And there was evening and there was morning, the sixth day.&lt;/i&gt;

It is true - it&#039;s hard if not impossible to understand exactly what the word &quot;subdue&quot; is intended to mean.  But I cannot read this passage and say that this is God allowing me to do whatever I want with creation.  Nor can I say that this passage has anything to do with such modern issues as overpopulation and eco-crises.  This is a creation story from thousands of years ago.  We only started talking about the environmental crisis in the 60s.

If I do try to draw wisdom from the passage, I see that it describes a world in which we as humans and all animals of creation have been provided for by God - in a good and beautiful way.  If I am to try to relate this passage to my environmental ethic, then that ethic must flow from that.

(I also have a snide reaction, too.)  I wouldn&#039;t take the comment about subduing the earth any more literally than I would the comment about us getting to eat every plant.  I mean, obviously God did not mean for us to be munching on poison ivy.  (But that&#039;s a bit off-focus.)  :~)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Martin Luther said that?  What a fabulous image of hope.  I love it!  </p>
<p>And that&#8217;s a good point bringing up PETA and one&#8217;s carbon footprint.  I&#8217;ve been on a red meat kick lately.  That is to say, I&#8217;ve been craving red meat A LOT and eating A LOT of it.  For me, this usually means that I&#8217;m low on iron and my body needs more.  I think I&#8217;ll challenge myself to find other ways of getting myself the nutrients my body is craving.  I can leave less of an imprint on the ecosystem, yet still get the nutrients I need.  I just need to be proactive about it.</p>
<p>I think I do something different with Genesis 1:28.  As with any single passage, I need to look at the context in which the line happens and the context in which the story was originally told before I can draw wisdom for how it impacts my life today.  </p>
<p>So, Genesis 1:28-31:</p>
<p><i>God blessed [the male and female he had created], and God said to them, &#8220;Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth and subdue it; and have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the air and over every living thing that moves upon the earth.&#8221;  God said, &#8220;See, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree with seed in its fruit; you shall have them for food.  And to every beast of the earth, and every beast of the earth, and to every bird of the air, and to everything that creeps on the earth, I have given every green plant for food.&#8221;  And it was so.  God saw everything that he had made, and indeed, it was very good.  And there was evening and there was morning, the sixth day.</i></p>
<p>It is true &#8211; it&#8217;s hard if not impossible to understand exactly what the word &#8220;subdue&#8221; is intended to mean.  But I cannot read this passage and say that this is God allowing me to do whatever I want with creation.  Nor can I say that this passage has anything to do with such modern issues as overpopulation and eco-crises.  This is a creation story from thousands of years ago.  We only started talking about the environmental crisis in the 60s.</p>
<p>If I do try to draw wisdom from the passage, I see that it describes a world in which we as humans and all animals of creation have been provided for by God &#8211; in a good and beautiful way.  If I am to try to relate this passage to my environmental ethic, then that ethic must flow from that.</p>
<p>(I also have a snide reaction, too.)  I wouldn&#8217;t take the comment about subduing the earth any more literally than I would the comment about us getting to eat every plant.  I mean, obviously God did not mean for us to be munching on poison ivy.  (But that&#8217;s a bit off-focus.)  :~)</p>
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